Does it make much difference where the F-35s park? They all fly over Tucson at some point. I assume I would hear the F-35s where I now hear the F-16s, which are plenty loud already. The peaceful operation of our bustling metropolis often comes to a standstill while these jets fly over.
But most importantly, it interrupts me when I am watching "Ow, My Balls!" Not okay!
Damn, Jimmy, I miss Dick already, and now none of my replies make sense. :\
I'm a native Tucsonan and grew up about a mile and a half from the base. I have known many air force and ex-air force people over the years. D-M has always been a part of the city that I know. But Dick, you aren't addressing my main point: the HUGE difference in noise level in these F-35s over anything else we have ever had here.
The current flight path crosses the University of Arizona and many schools and places where a quiet environment is vital to the conduct of daily affairs. The A-10s fly over more or less constantly, and fortunately are not terribly noisy jets. We had a flyover of some Navy jets recently that are louder than the F-16 but not as loud as the F-35. It shook the fucking walls down where I work at the University.
My "boot up your ass" statement was a bit of irony relating to Toby Keith's inane song that represented everything distasteful and manipulative about the whole cowboy nationalism and rah-rah military thing this country has gone through for the past 10 years or so. And I know for damn sure that F-35 supporters are going to be using the whole "Sound Of Freedom" pablum to try to persuade Tucsonans to accept the F-35s.
You have already trotted out another empty persuader: that military and ex-military types support the F-35s. People in the military? No shit. It's their bread and butter. But they will all be rotating out of my city in due course. Ex-military? Maybe you should conduct a poll. Last time I heard, being a veteran didn't make someone stupid. Your final thought about the inevitability of the F-35s may be true -- truer than the people organizing the bullshit public forums would like us to think. So thanks for that.
And as far as my boot, which old fat ex-military F-35 supporter would you like me to aim it at? Let's make this fair.
People need to understand that an increase in decibels -- like the jump from 94 decibels of noise for the F-16 to the 112 decibels of the F-35 -- is not arithmetic but logarithmic. Sound pressure increase 50% for every 3 decibels. The difference is huge.
Personally, if I ever come across anyone who actually supports the F-35 in Tucson, they are going to hear the Sound of Freedom: my boot up their ass.
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But most importantly, it interrupts me when I am watching "Ow, My Balls!" Not okay!
Damn, Jimmy, I miss Dick already, and now none of my replies make sense. :\
The current flight path crosses the University of Arizona and many schools and places where a quiet environment is vital to the conduct of daily affairs. The A-10s fly over more or less constantly, and fortunately are not terribly noisy jets. We had a flyover of some Navy jets recently that are louder than the F-16 but not as loud as the F-35. It shook the fucking walls down where I work at the University.
My "boot up your ass" statement was a bit of irony relating to Toby Keith's inane song that represented everything distasteful and manipulative about the whole cowboy nationalism and rah-rah military thing this country has gone through for the past 10 years or so. And I know for damn sure that F-35 supporters are going to be using the whole "Sound Of Freedom" pablum to try to persuade Tucsonans to accept the F-35s.
You have already trotted out another empty persuader: that military and ex-military types support the F-35s. People in the military? No shit. It's their bread and butter. But they will all be rotating out of my city in due course. Ex-military? Maybe you should conduct a poll. Last time I heard, being a veteran didn't make someone stupid. Your final thought about the inevitability of the F-35s may be true -- truer than the people organizing the bullshit public forums would like us to think. So thanks for that.
And as far as my boot, which old fat ex-military F-35 supporter would you like me to aim it at? Let's make this fair.
Personally, if I ever come across anyone who actually supports the F-35 in Tucson, they are going to hear the Sound of Freedom: my boot up their ass.
It's the American Way, after all.