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Re: “So, What Do People Think About Teachers?

50% of all teachers have always quit by year 5, just when they accumulate the experience necessary to do an above average job. Unfortunately, we have a culture that has been shaped by teachers within a few years of retirement. Thus, those teachers get the lion's share of pay.

The typical teacher can't remotely hope to get the average teacher salary in Arizona of $47,218 (National Education Association Rankings and Estimates).

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 04/20/2018 at 6:42 PM

Re: “'Dark Money, Charles Koch, and the UA Freedom Center' Panel Discussion Tuesday at UA

"I never appealed to other people's racism for personal or political gain. "

David, neither have I. Pointing out that the MAS classes were glorifying Che Guevara and that Guevara had 14,000 Hispanics shot in the back of the head can only be construed as racist if you conflate communism with Hispanic culture.

I don't and the Hispanics I grew up with didn't either.

What you do is defend a racist institution every day, every column - the district method of delivering education.

We now know the national numbers to perfection. The top 1% of all districts can't make it happen for Blacks and Hispanics from poverty.

You can soap suds your way around the data any way you like but that is the blunt truth.

We also know that your favorite project, Tucson Unified, can't get on a continuous improvement path necessary to rescue the Hispanics it is responsible for. Their only illusion of improvement comes from students leaving them changing the denominator of the excellence fraction. Less than a half percent per year of improvement. Not detectible year to year.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 04/05/2018 at 4:53 PM

Re: “Class Struggle

This is the business as usual crisis point. The parents of over 14,000 students left you because they are dissatisfied with the quality of their school. Is the school closure going to result in still more dissatisfaction and further defection?

Or, is it somehow going to make you stronger?

I doubt the latter. TUSD's internal surveys show perceptions of excellence rising at about a half of a percent per year. Yet when you compare that number with their student population, you find that the total excellence is flat as a pancake. Actually down a couple thousand students since 2006.

Meaning that the improvement is an illusion, produced solely by dissatisfied parents no longer being in the denominator of the excellence fraction because they left.

The destruction continues.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 04/05/2018 at 1:45 PM

Re: “'Dark Money, Charles Koch, and the UA Freedom Center' Panel Discussion Tuesday at UA

Wow, what a disgusting, putrid event. Here you have a family, the Kochs, that has created over 100,000 jobs and contributes millions every year to civic causes being pilloried just because they were a dominant force in stopping the U.S. in its slide to North Korea, Cuba and Venezuela.

Our universities have degenerated so much in their abilities that now we have over 20% of our students who actually believe that North Korea, with their forced labor camps numbering in the millions, their starvation of children, their prevalence of the most backward of diseases, gut worms being held up as a model system and over a million college graduates buying into it.

Then, we have the Koch family, relentlessly making the simple and effective point that capitalism with its enormous sensing ability through supply and demand in the marketplace can create a society where no one goes to be hungry every night.

We know now that the millions who starved to death in China didn't even starve because of lack of food. Enough food was available but there was no marketplace mechanism to get it to the places where it was needed most. The bureaucratic state that Marx believed would be so efficient can't function at a fraction of the efficiency of the free market.

There's a special place in hell for you David for lining up with the forces of evil.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 04/04/2018 at 4:22 AM

Re: “Bolder

As soon as you relent and allow the conversation to revolve around the needs of the teachers for money instead of their needs in the classroom and the needs of the students and parents, you are doomed to create this howling, mindless mob of victimhood.

When they do studies of compensation, they find that we all seek victimhood. We first compare our salaries with those around us in the workplace and if that doesn't work, we keep going up the ladder till we get to professional baseball players and CEO's.

Simply put, needs are infinite. Epicurius laid this out in detail 2300 years ago.

The truth is that the average salarty for teachers in Arizona is $47,000 (NEA stats) and if you have a family with two breadwinners at $47,000 for a $94,000 household, you are in the upper 15% of Arizona.

Why should the bottom 85% be taxed for the benefit of the upper 15% unless clear value is there?

What do we get out of education culture for our further spending?

1. We get higher taxes and we know what that does for the future outcomes of our students by looking to Connecticut which spends $22,000 per student per year as compared to our $8,000 per student per year. Connecticut has lost 14,000 jobs since 2000 while Arizona has added more than 400,000. We also know what it gets you academically. Connecticut typical household income is double ours and as such should have NAEP scores 15 points higher than ours. Instead, their Black and Hispanic 8th grade math scores are 10 points lower than ours- a whole year. Even their White scores are lower than ours.

When money is your objective, nothing goes right.

2. We get more Masters degrees in education and we know from an overwhelming body of research studies what that does for our students. Teachers with Masters degrees in education get lower academic gains than teachers with Bachelors degrees. There is something toxic in our colleges of education.

3. Instead of pumping up the starting salary towards the average salary to attract talent, increasing the average salary actually has the perverse effect of reducing the starting salary relative to the average because all the teachers in power are close to retirement and use every bit of influence they have to tilt the salary curve. Starting teachers who most need a pay increase are left bereft.

This is education culture: it's dysfunctional. The only way to reform it is to steadily allow more and more entrants in the competitive marketplace until someone gets it right.

Someone will get it right. The ideas are already all out there in research papers, they just have to be assembled in one coherent package.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 04/02/2018 at 11:47 AM

Re: “Is Education the Best Message For Democrats To Boost Voter Turnout?

Depends if you want schools to cost you more money or if you want schools to be more effective.

If Connecticut is your goal, with a cost of $22,000 per student per year- yes, vote Democrat.

Spending more is not without its tax consequences. Connecticut has lost 14,000 jobs since 2000 while Arizona has added 462,000 jobs. Our pro big government research community would have you believe that taxing economic growth has no consequences. The data suggests otherwise.

If having the best schools in the nation, i.e. the highest academic gains, the highest test scores for each demographic group: Blacks, Hispanics and White students, and more civilized students and fewer violent crimes by juveniles, party choice might be a different answer. You might consider voting Republican.

Since 2000, the percentage of parents rating their child's school excellent at our competitive large school districts i.e. Vail, Catalina, Sahuarita, Deer Valley, Mesa, Chandler Unified has trended upwards into the 60s. By comparison, all the other states in the nation have trended downward into the mid 20s.

Matthew Hingus of the Urban Institute has done perhaps the most rigorous comparison of apples to apples test scores, ranking Massachusetts first and Arizona 13th. Sean Reardon of Stanford has done a spectacular ranking of every school district in the nation. Arizona had 30% of the successful large school districts and zero percent of the failures. Arizona's typical district was ranked at the 74th percentile of academic gains while Massachusett's typical district was ranked at the 54th percentile.

Now, perhaps you don't trust the judgment of parents about schools but you do when it comes to politicians.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 03/27/2018 at 6:42 PM

Re: “The Numbers Game In TUSD's State Audit

Integrity, unlike Blog for Arizona. I like that.

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Posted by jhuppent@hotmail.com on 03/17/2018 at 4:36 AM

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