Cleetaz 
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Re: “Toilet Politics

LiberalFree2016, from your lips to my ears- I am also a Conservative- and as Ultra as you, before having to step out of my Left/Right thinking and stop to consider the bucket of worms that is my grandchild's life at present. I guess if you can call us loony, I could suggest to you the possibility of your being delusional, but I won't resort to name-calling. The simple facts are not Left and Right- the simple facts are the health and well-being of my grandchild (who, by the way, IS seeing a counselor on a regular basis to HELP her with this situation, and to teach her how to deal with the hurtful opinions of people like you). Consequently, I do understand your sentiments very well, however fascistic they may be. I envy you the tidy, childless world you must live in. The goal here is to face this head-on, not bury it under hurtful fear. I respect your opinion. Please respect mine.

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Posted by Cleetaz on 05/28/2016 at 8:30 AM

Re: “Toilet Politics

You bring up an excellent point, Debbie T, one every parent of a transgender/gender dysphoric child asks themselves many times in the course of their child's young life- what if they are wrong? What if the child's feelings "change midstream", I think you mockingly put it. What then? The situation must be carefully weighed by many professionals through the years. That and living with the child and watching how their mind works, constantly analyzing to pick up the smallest of clues in order to discredit your child. But once you take that giant step to respond to the pain your child is in, accept this is what you as a parent must do, you begin a terrifying and excruciating journey with that child. Not for sissies, for sure. To listen to you all, I'd think it was easy and doting to give in to that. Not so! Aside from the confusion and pain of actually being born with this, they must face the world of people like you who speak without knowing about that pain. I can't blame you. I am Dena's (in the article) mom, and that child is my grandchild. I fear what life in this cynical world will do to the mind of that beautiful child, but I stand behind her 100%. Read. Temper your thoughts to allow a little kindness in those thoughts. It isn't easy, believe me, though I appreciate your comment, really.

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Posted by Cleetaz on 05/27/2016 at 10:18 PM

Re: “Toilet Politics

I am Dena's mom. I am the grandma of the child of whom she speaks. I am from the generations of people who sucked it up, sent our pregnant daughters off to birth when she wasn't "properly" married (my sister, who ended her life). I'm from a time when SHAME was the most favorite word a parent could feel or utter. WHY? Are we so small-minded that our pea-brains can't encompass anything that doesn't please us? Hasn't enough misery and shame been felt and blood spilled to cause us to pause and think and change with the times? How many had that uncle/aunt or brother/sister who didn't quite fit in the skin they were given? Isn't it sad we haven't evolved and realized we're all in the same boat if not the same skin? I don't care what gender, color, political bent or whatever my grandchildren may be. As long as they love me and call me gramma, I'll fear for them, but I'll love them even more for their differences. The enemy is anyone who dares think their opinion means anything more than just being one opinion. The semantics could then be worked out in a loving fashion that keeps everyone safe. We should teach our children that there are many differences among us, but many more likenesses than could ever be simply put- many pitfalls, and many smooth, well-paved roads, and then let them live and choose as is their right to do. We are from yesterday, and our opinions have maimed and killed many in our day. It's their turn. Give everyone an even playing field, parents, and then turn them loose to (hopefully) do much better than we did. Personally, I hope my prodigy will all find their niche as we all must do. Hopefully, there won't be a shortage of niches, where the "Stepford society" can function as well as all the rest, in peace. The world is large, the minds are small. Expand.

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Posted by Cleetaz on 05/27/2016 at 10:21 AM

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