grandma8, please tell me how the former "Assault Weapons Ban" was "successful". Please cite to stats that prove it reduced crime. Or that crime rose after it expired.
South Jersey Doc, you are confused on the purpose of the Constitution. It is not a list of things the people may do. It sets out the limitations and responsibilities of the government, delegates certain, limited powers to the government, and explicitly lists and protects some Rights of the people, but specifically does not limit those Rights merely to the ones listed.
The Right to revolt against oppression is inherent in being human. And it's not a crime... if you win. How do you think this nation came into existence? It need not be listed in the Constitution, but the additional writings of the founders made clear that it was one of several purposes of the Second Amendment.
"These gun guys don't employ so much talking points as babbling points."
Ah, so knowledge and experience on a subject now equate to "babbling points"? I think it more accurate to say that ignorance and irrationality count as such, so I'll explain yours.
"They're not for hunting or target shooting"
Bull, I use my AR for both of those things. Hundreds of thousands, likely millions are used for the same activities. They are, in fact, one of the most popular rifle platforms for the rather misnomered "high power" target competitions. (In that category, "high power" means anything over a .22 rim-fire. The most common AR caliber is one of the weakest centerfire rifle rounds.)
"there's no way that they're for personal protection"
Bull again. That's exactly what many of them are also for. (Hey it's a very versatile weapon, deal with it.) Relatively low power, but enough to do the job, less likely than most rifle rounds to over-penetrate. A modular weapon system that can be easily configured for a variety of different-sized people with adjustable stocks and grips. Easy to handle, see prior adjustability, and relatively short over-all length. Low-recoil, so easy to fire for smaller/weaker/older people.
"They have one purpose and that is to kill a whole lot of human beings in a really short period of time."
Bull #3. If that's true, why do police and government agents need them? Why do 99.999999% of them never get used in crimes? How do explain any other semi-auto firearm?
I'd go on, but the destruction of your first four points pretty much takes the ground out from under all the rest of your wildly erroneous assertions. If you feel up to the discussion, I'll happily detail the errors you have made in your other claims as well. Let me know...
I have no idea what Patricia Maisch means by "tougher background checks on gun sales". What specific proposals does she advocate, and how whould they have stopped Crazy-Head, who had not been adjudicated to be a danger to anyone?
LouisWu: The author you crib your screen name from would be very disappointed with your lack of reasoning, research and cite to evidence. Relying on uninformed ignorance and supposition is unworthy of you.
Please point to where Concealed Permit holders have been a substantial problem elsewhere. If they are not an issue off-campus, why would they be a problem on-campus?
Also, Citizens have a very good track record of defending themselves before "trained professionals" ever have time to arrive:
"It's not the students' job or the faculty's job to worry about self-preservation."
Wow. And they let you into a University? Seriously? Standards seem to be falling badly.
Let me clue in the ivory-tower set: Your self-preservation is always your own responsibility. This is not only Real Life(tm), it's been settled case law for some time. Police have no duty to protect individuals, nor any liability should they fail to do so.
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And if you want a plan, please propose one.
The Right to revolt against oppression is inherent in being human. And it's not a crime... if you win. How do you think this nation came into existence? It need not be listed in the Constitution, but the additional writings of the founders made clear that it was one of several purposes of the Second Amendment.
Ah, so knowledge and experience on a subject now equate to "babbling points"? I think it more accurate to say that ignorance and irrationality count as such, so I'll explain yours.
"They're not for hunting or target shooting"
Bull, I use my AR for both of those things. Hundreds of thousands, likely millions are used for the same activities. They are, in fact, one of the most popular rifle platforms for the rather misnomered "high power" target competitions. (In that category, "high power" means anything over a .22 rim-fire. The most common AR caliber is one of the weakest centerfire rifle rounds.)
"there's no way that they're for personal protection"
Bull again. That's exactly what many of them are also for. (Hey it's a very versatile weapon, deal with it.) Relatively low power, but enough to do the job, less likely than most rifle rounds to over-penetrate. A modular weapon system that can be easily configured for a variety of different-sized people with adjustable stocks and grips. Easy to handle, see prior adjustability, and relatively short over-all length. Low-recoil, so easy to fire for smaller/weaker/older people.
"They have one purpose and that is to kill a whole lot of human beings in a really short period of time."
Bull #3. If that's true, why do police and government agents need them? Why do 99.999999% of them never get used in crimes? How do explain any other semi-auto firearm?
I'd go on, but the destruction of your first four points pretty much takes the ground out from under all the rest of your wildly erroneous assertions. If you feel up to the discussion, I'll happily detail the errors you have made in your other claims as well. Let me know...
Please point to where Concealed Permit holders have been a substantial problem elsewhere. If they are not an issue off-campus, why would they be a problem on-campus?
Also, Citizens have a very good track record of defending themselves before "trained professionals" ever have time to arrive:
http://www.thearmedcitizen.com/
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/
Wow. And they let you into a University? Seriously? Standards seem to be falling badly.
Let me clue in the ivory-tower set: Your self-preservation is always your own responsibility. This is not only Real Life(tm), it's been settled case law for some time. Police have no duty to protect individuals, nor any liability should they fail to do so.